The Guardian Legend

Sequel of The Game => Work => Topic started by: teremochek on January 12, 2010, 06:14:47 AM

Title: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on January 12, 2010, 06:14:47 AM
All greetings. My name is teremochek. I love TGL and I wish to make continuation of this game. Some times I started to work over continuation, then interrupted, then started over again.
1. The first time I wrote on play basic. I did not have not enough experience, and play basic it has appeared paid. (2008)
(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_playbasic_1.png)

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_playbasic_2.png)
2. Further I have started to master Blitz3d. It has appeared too not easily. Especially at me no 3D models, and the artist from me not the best. I too have decided not to work.(2008-2009)
(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitz3d_1.png)

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitz3d_2.png)

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitz3d_3.png)
3. Then me has interested BlitzMax. It simple and strong.
On it I have stopped. Also has made TGLR Walk (Zelda world). But has been occupied by another project, and has stopped to work.(2009)
(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitzMax_walk1.png)

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitzMax_walk2.png)
4. Then I have still started to do TGLR fly.(2009)
(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitzMax_fly1.png)

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/tgl_blitzMax_fly2.png)
I wish to renew work on mine project. Also I hope that who-nibut will want to help. :bluelander:  :bluelanderbig: :bluelander:


Code
http://code.google.com/p/the-guardian-legend-blitzmax (http://code.google.com/p/the-guardian-legend-blitzmax/)


Download
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part1.rar (http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part1.rar)
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part2.rar (http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part2.rar)
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part3.rar (http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/games/The_Guardian_Legend_remake_rev1.part3.rar)

Download (rev11) and Editor
http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/)


TGLBM15  download  (https://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/The%20Guardian%20Legend%20BlitzMax%20%28rev15%29.zip/download)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RagnarokNAJU on March 03, 2010, 12:46:49 PM
i really feel that a remake on the same format as the original would be awesome... instead of 3-d and new age expensive feeling.. it wouldbe cool to have a NES or even an SNESfeeling to the game.. just a thought
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Megadeth502 on April 14, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: RagnarokNAJU on March 03, 2010, 12:46:49 PM
i really feel that a remake on the same format as the original would be awesome... instead of 3-d and new age expensive feeling.. it wouldbe cool to have a NES or even an SNESfeeling to the game.. just a thought

yes i agree, i don't think 3d is necessary , i would love to see a SNES remake

(but if someone wants to do a 3d version, by all means, go for it)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on April 25, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
If it were to be as a SNES one, 3D should probably not the be a good choice, there's been alot of good games that got abit "ruined" by making them 3D, like Blaster Master, another classic, went from 2D to 3D and it was pretty famous for being "Akward" without having the old feeling of it being a unique gametype.

If you'll be trying to make it more SNES feeling, a simple retouch can make a good impression Like for example. Let me whip something up in a second.

Edit: If you were, for example, to make a smoothening of the Original sprites(Although it's more like a ReMake then a scratch sprite.) to make it able to hold double the pixel frame, we could somehow get the old feeling of it being the original yet with a touch up. Like this one I made in a few minutes.
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2197/testanix2miria.gif)
It gives you a more of a "same" feeling.

Of course only a touch up of the sprites can only go so far, with the level design still may be of a newer taste if you were to change it to make it more of a "new" game. But Copyright as well may come in the way if this project were to leave the ground.

There's alot to think of here, heh.

If you possible were able to use the touched up sprite in your Play Basic programming, Teremocheck?
Atlteast it's a start?

Also, I love the feeling of being overwhelmed in that last screenshot you have, Tere.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 25, 2010, 06:08:29 PM
Even if it will be 3D(which I doubt) we all are intrested to make some special atmosphere like original one have.
Personally I think it will be 2D tho. This way is more possible to keep project open for single effort enthusiasts like creating a one enemy sprite.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on April 25, 2010, 06:15:32 PM
You already thought of the single effort helpers as well, There one second, gone the next. Poof.
That's one of the reason I can only help out with alittle things, since I am one of those as well. Bleh.

Well, even with that in mind, creating new sprites is quite a lot of work, especially if you were to create new big sized bosses(Although with the limitation from NES to PC is extensive, Animated Sprite Bosses is fun yet tedious amount of spritiing on the quality.).
It's still Tere's programming that may be quite a big progress from ideas to actual programming, he has already done the World Walk, Fly Zone in real programming code, which is quite a feat.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 25, 2010, 06:28:08 PM
awesomeplz{YAY BOSSES)  :optomon: :grimgrin:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on April 25, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
Not just any bosses, BIG ones. Even Fleepa is insane big in the game. And think about spriting that. >.<
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 25, 2010, 06:45:24 PM
For example I m flash developer. U can use tween animation in flash. It can save lots of time than frame by frame. I think Fleepa can be animated like that. So you create a separate parts of Fleepa and then move them with tween animation.

I would love to see not a remake of old but something new. Original game is perfect already in a way.
Dreaming of new bosses :redlander:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on April 25, 2010, 06:47:28 PM
Well that's where we're different, I like doing things frame by frame, even if it is tedious.  ;)
That's the only way they could make NES and SNES games back in the days, that's the reason I want to become a good enough spriter.
Even though I kinda need a break from my own game in development, just to get some ideas for spriting as well that I like TGL alot.

Quote from: arseniy on April 25, 2010, 06:45:24 PM
I would love to see not a remake of old but something new. Original game is perfect already in a way.

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8407/theguardianlegendguardi.png)
You say that after I started on the fifth sprite. :P

Well if you're aiming for something new, I really can't help out that much.

Also..
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/821/imagebannerx.png) I'm mostly only good at remaking or changing already existing sprites. >.<
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 04, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
Can you look at the final screen and decide to make her belly covered?
it's for the logo change
(http://theguardianlegend.com/clone/sprite-compendium_files/guardianprofile.gif)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 04, 2010, 08:14:02 AM
I don't understand your request, Arseniy.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 06, 2010, 08:49:27 AM
Quote from: RandomSpriter on May 04, 2010, 08:14:02 AM
I don't understand your request, Arseniy.
Well look on her cloths. Under the bra the body is covered. Hm.. Maybe I should try to play with your image myself. I would fix plane a little to make it look more streamlined.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 06, 2010, 09:41:35 AM
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5755/imagebanner.png)

Like that? Even added the pendant.
Her white colour though is not so easily visible, but it's there.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 08, 2010, 08:21:28 AM
Made some changes to Miria
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4637/imagebanner1.png)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 08, 2010, 08:44:49 AM
You darkened her skintone.^^

I prefer to not actually change the already used colours from TGL due to me liking them. =3

But your sprite is better.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 08, 2010, 08:57:47 AM
lol :)
I could not do this changes without your sprite mod :heart0:. i used the Miria color from the ending pic ^_^ :3
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 08, 2010, 09:11:23 AM
Oh...I didn't think of that. >.< Damn!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 10, 2010, 08:15:44 AM
If you make some improves on the Logo I would give my step to it too. We could finish this together. Maybe someone would join to improve the logo?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 10, 2010, 08:25:48 AM
Oh ho ho...

Already flushed in so many other things at the moment. XD
Story thinking, Space stations, Original Intro Tileset, Characters etc etc.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 10, 2010, 08:29:13 AM
OKay. I think we not enough memebers community tho. Just a few people yet who involed in discussion of the possible work.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 10, 2010, 09:55:11 AM
Even the smallest idea can change the whole world.

;)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 18, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
Quote from: RandomSpriter on May 10, 2010, 09:55:11 AM
Even the smallest idea can change the whole world.;)
I can't agree with this. It can be kinda illusion. U see sometimes the idea potentially grow in many people and once someone pronounce that it goes like boom. Like a spark which fire up wick and then dinamites that was already in the heads explodes. So this is just illusion like an top of iceberg.

I must say I m against positive thinking and other concepts like "your life is what you believe", karma etc... I find this ideas lower down moral and soft responsibility. Making us a parasites.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 18, 2010, 10:46:13 PM
Not to be much off topic here, but humans are parasites. :P
every single being in this world feats on another being. That's life.

Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 18, 2010, 11:50:25 PM
no. there is some actual difference with parasitic life style and some others :P
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 19, 2010, 02:35:24 AM
Now you're just being picky.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on May 29, 2010, 01:00:35 PM
All thanks! Conversations about parasites have very much encouraged me...
I did not work for a long time over game (3 months approximately)
That I have made the last is have merged flight and walking.
Well... We Will hope for revival)
I not so would like
To write to one, but maybe from my sketches, it is already possible to "cook" something
Important:
Fly mode -  320x240 : tile - 16
Walking mode - 1280x800 tile - 64
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on May 29, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
Sorry for bringing you our offtopic talk, Tere.

What kind of sketches do you exactly?
And are those the resolution you had for your Guardian Legend Remake?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on May 29, 2010, 10:31:29 PM
I think Teremochek could join GM project as he is programmer it will be easy for him get into GM.
I really not know the life situation of teremochek and if he responsible for family to spend time for gain money to feed children etc...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on May 30, 2010, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: RandomSpriter on May 29, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
Sorry for bringing you our offtopic talk, Tere.
Anything, it is ridiculous.
Quote
What kind of sketches do you exactly?
This and this...
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_fly.rar
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_walk.rar
Quote
And are those the resolution you had for your Guardian Legend Remake?
While 1280x800
bud If we will want we can make any...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RagnarokNAJU on May 30, 2010, 03:45:50 PM

Quote
What kind of sketches do you exactly?

This and this...
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_fly.rar
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_walk.rar

i got all the files but everytime i run .exe it makes my computer freeze... am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on May 31, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: RagnarokNAJU on May 30, 2010, 03:45:50 PM

Quote
What kind of sketches do you exactly?

This and this...
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_fly.rar
http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/teremMax2_Guardian_Legend_remake_walk.rar

i got all the files but everytime i run .exe it makes my computer freeze... am i doing something wrong?
Windows Requirements: Windows Vista/XP/2K/ME/98; Hardware OpenGL support recommended; DirectX7 or greater recommended.
MacOS Requirements: MacOS X 10.3.9 or higher; Project Builder or X-Code developer tools installed.
Linux Requirements: Hardware OpenGL support recommended.

There can be system requirements?

Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: DFStormbringer on November 03, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
First off i like to say vailiant efforts going on here.

secondly.. Blaster Master can EASILY be done in 3d an look good.. and retain its roots.. the recent remake of the origional bionic commando proved that.. in fact after its release that game creator stated he WANTED to do a similar remake of blaster master..  BUT sunsoft rose from the ashes and came out wit the crap thats now on the wii.

further proof it could be done.. some work i did a few years back....
all unfinished of course
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/back%20log%20items/77.png)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/lvl8wip.jpg)
area 8
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/back%20log%20items/82.png)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/lvl5wip.jpg)
area 5
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/back%20log%20items/54.png)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/lvl6.jpg)
area 6
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/back%20log%20items/blastermaster_various_sheet.png)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y208/dfstormbringer/BMitemsbasic.jpg)
in game items
and the banner below which was all made by me.

so yes.. a decent 3d remake.. I possible.. just.. not been attempted yet.


remaking the origional with updated graphics.. and music..would make one hell of a start..an would be loved by all.
the experience gained from that should be enough to give you guy what you need to know to move on with your own spinoff.

a for the need for music.. im sure asking around at the OCremix site would easily get you some artist more then willing to help out int he music department.. IF you can PROVE that your already on track with a solid game for them to put thier time to.

----

played the flash demo.. nice start.. ALOT of bugs sand flaws to it that make the game barely playable though.. including 1/3rd of shots going through enemies instead of registering hits.

avatar movement becomes stationary between rooms forcing the player to repress the movement button to continue moving foreward.

enemies were based on their color and difficulty.. red and orange being higher up then blue and green.. yet starting out with  high reds with a starting out gun is just a bad way to start the learning curve for new players.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on December 28, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD8DkFZ61lg
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on December 29, 2010, 12:27:13 AM
Wow, what a swarm!
I see white dots nearby everything that moves. I take it is a compression artifact?  ???
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on December 29, 2010, 03:40:05 AM
I m pretty sure it's just a top right coorinate of the sprite. Perhaps a test mode like.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on December 29, 2010, 03:42:15 AM
Quote from: teremochek on December 28, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD8DkFZ61lg
The ending swarm was awesome!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on January 26, 2011, 08:46:58 AM
News :bluelander:
Cut out images from game (total images 1800 )
Has made the code sketches, to many monsters.
Now laborious work is necessary.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on January 30, 2011, 12:38:39 AM
What kind of work?
Perhaps at this point I should drop the idea to have a try at this. I was thinking about vector sprites for a reason, I was considering playing a bit with them to try producing a prototype... but perhaps it's better to leave it to you instead.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on January 30, 2011, 05:47:13 AM
Unite is good to increase power. I sure you 1 person is so little to make medium game as TGL. It's hard work.
I make games in collab with programmers. It takes 1-3 month to produce simple flash game.
Like this for example:
http://komix-games.com/game.php?game=ttb3

It took us month. And the graphics is mostly simple shapes.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on January 30, 2011, 11:00:45 AM
Well, I know something about that... There was - honestly - no plan to complete it 100%, perhaps only the first two dungeons and two main corridors.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on January 30, 2011, 11:36:22 PM
if u want do some gfx, make separate elements. No need to draw whole corridor bcuz it will be changebale. Or if u do whole corridor sketch then no need to put all effort into sketch. When u do static thing it is very different than when u see it in action.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on January 31, 2011, 11:02:18 AM
I'd still like trying vector graphics. But it's somewhat difficult to "read" those pixelated sprites. I use Inkscape which supports clone object by default so I am "natively" thinking in a modular way.
Or perhaps I don't get your point at all?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 06, 2011, 09:10:13 AM
Quote from: UserK on January 30, 2011, 12:38:39 AM
What kind of work?
Perhaps at this point I should drop the idea to have a try at this. I was thinking about vector sprites for a reason, I was considering playing a bit with them to try producing a prototype... but perhaps it's better to leave it to you instead.
In the first, Now it is necessary to define characteristics of objects - Speed, Lives, Points, Damage and another. Laborious enough work if to consider that some objects don't give in to understanding)
In the second, all will need to be coded and programmed it.
 As a whole, it is possible to help. I not to whom don't forbid it). Can write music in Eight-bit styles, or Draw new monsters, or can define characteristics of objects of original game in a theme - "The Guardial Legend Dynamics"

Quote from: arseniy on January 30, 2011, 05:47:13 AM
Unite is good to increase power. I sure you 1 person is so little to make medium game as TGL. It's hard work.
I make games in collab with programmers. It takes 1-3 month to produce simple flash game.
Like this for example:
http://komix-games.com/game.php?game=ttb3

It took us month. And the graphics is mostly simple shapes.

)) the Tempting toy. Truth. At me since the childhood it is necessary - to burst hobby bubbles.
Once again I will underline skill Komix  :redlander:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on February 10, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
I can only vectorize the sprites. The rest is black magic to me. My tools are rather primitive and my spare time is close to nothing. So far I've been churning out a few per week!

How nice, today my comp keeps crashin and crashin and crashin...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 12, 2011, 12:40:03 PM
Quote from: UserK on February 10, 2011, 09:11:25 AM
I can only vectorize the sprites. The rest is black magic to me. My tools are rather primitive and my spare time is close to nothing. So far I've been churning out a few per week!

How nice, today my comp keeps crashin and crashin and crashin...

Sprites are necessary in a format png, against rgb (255,0,255), in four color palette, under the classical permission (256x224).
Please, don't do too much, and that it will cause difficulties.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on February 19, 2011, 03:36:18 AM
Once they are vectors I can rasterize them in whatever format you want.
I think inkscape outputs png only but I will convert with the gimp if necessary.
What about the dimensions? No love for power-of-two dimensioned thingies?

I've almost completed a conversion of a sample screenshot just to have an idea of how it could look like, but I'm having some difficulties and I do that only in my spare time, which is very little right now.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on February 19, 2011, 07:31:27 AM
Wait, I'm thinking at this again. Four colors? What? Why?
A so aggressive color reducing will require a professional pixel artist IMHO. Automated conversion will hammer away the details.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 20, 2011, 08:21:05 AM
Because I create game in classical style. If the Picture is not four color it will break game atmosphere.
Standard enemy object in the size 16х16
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on February 20, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
Mh... I'll see what I can do...

But I'm not quite sure I get your idea... if they are going to look like the original... what will make it different? I cannot quite get in your line of thinking.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on March 24, 2011, 07:30:23 AM
new video  :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMGsOe6qCs
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on March 25, 2011, 12:34:43 PM
Quote from: UserK on February 20, 2011, 08:53:04 AM
Mh... I'll see what I can do...

But I'm not quite sure I get your idea... if they are going to look like the original... what will make it different? I cannot quite get in your line of thinking.
I'm certain he means that he wishes to only use 4 colours, but the gameplay can be different even with the same graphical setting.
Controls, story, effects can be updated with the same graphical setting, keeping to the original. :)

Also, your bosses seems rather weak, Teremo. ;)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 25, 2011, 08:47:59 AM
Sprites
http://webfile.ru/5285050
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 25, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
Oh gowd... this purple...
But cool! Where did you got it?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 28, 2011, 09:20:54 AM
Quote from: arseniy on April 25, 2011, 10:33:26 AM
Oh gowd... this purple...
But cool! Where did you got it?
Well all is simple. Nintendulator, Media PLayer, FRAPS, Photoshop. Here not all monsters, but the most part. I to make missing palettes. Four palettes. Has laid out archive at the desire of Black Vortex.
Title: Re: It's almost a month
Post by: UserK on May 23, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
Hey teremochek, how is this going on? I think it would be good to have an update!
Perhaps even by others. There are a few sequels around and I think I've lost count of them.
Title: Re: It's almost a month
Post by: teremochek on May 28, 2011, 12:18:18 AM
Quote from: UserK on May 23, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
Hey teremochek, how is this going on? I think it would be good to have an update!
Perhaps even by others. There are a few sequels around and I think I've lost count of them.
Hi,
Well Things are going slowly. I have made ​​remakes of the four corridors (it was hard). And now I want to make a new one. The game works only Flight Mode. If all goes as before, then I'll try to make the editor corridors. These Projects will I do until November, no more.
How to finish a new level, I will deal with the sounds and music. Will then be released.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 01, 2011, 08:32:32 AM
Good to know. But perhaps you should take a small stop to think?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 13, 2011, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: UserK on June 01, 2011, 08:32:32 AM
Good to know. But perhaps you should take a small stop to think?
I thought, and it was not easy to make this decision.
Of course if you want I can always return to this Projects. Especially since I'm going to give - the source code. And if anyone can develop it further.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 13, 2011, 07:54:11 AM
Made a video. I'm almost finished. Do not know yet what to do graphic resolution ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISVy4ahNnFE
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 13, 2011, 08:38:08 AM
It seems you're on the fast track.
What do you mean with the resolution?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 13, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
Quote from: UserK on June 13, 2011, 08:38:08 AM
It seems you're on the fast track.
What do you mean with the resolution?
:)Iha!
Width Screen
By default 1280x800
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 14, 2011, 05:52:54 AM
Whoa awesome!

Can there be option for different resolutions?
Well the smallest one should be at least 800x600 but 1024x768 is better.

What frame rate it has?

I see you have other videos there with different areas.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 14, 2011, 07:29:59 AM
Quote from: arseniy on June 14, 2011, 05:52:54 AM
Whoa awesome!

Can there be option for different resolutions?
Well the smallest one should be at least 800x600 but 1024x768 is better.


What frame rate it has?

I see you have other videos there with different areas.

I made ​​a cfg file, it can choose any screen resolution and other settings. During the game to change anything.
Frames can be changed.

Yes. As I said before, I did five corridors. Lacked the patience to do more. Problem was that in the original game tiles background 8 to 8, and I have a 16 to 16.
Therefore, in some places are made correctly. Of course this is theoretically possible to fix it.

But I think it's not the point. I wanted to show what can be done corridors as in the original and new ...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 14, 2011, 11:27:51 PM
I would love to see high-resolution sprites. I have no idea how your project works. I think having a native resolution for sprites as 1024x768 is cool. Or maybe even the higher the one you used - 1280x800 - is it HD???

If the enginge you use can filter the sprites then can be used mixed resolution sprites. They will be scaled and filtered.

I think in HD the stats panel can be a side one.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 14, 2011, 11:30:10 PM
There is some issue I hear. The sounds prevents by other sounds. When you hit boss the sound of hitting boss stops most of the time without played to the end.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 14, 2011, 11:36:11 PM
The Guardian Legend remake rev1 Download
http://webfile.ru/5384978 (http://webfile.ru/5384978)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 14, 2011, 11:44:21 PM
It runs with ovverrated speed! What to do??? I mean it runs like 3 times faster than should!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 15, 2011, 03:34:54 AM
Setting to D3D7Max2DDriver or D3D9Max2DDriver in config file solves the issue.

But what are the controls???

I only figure fly with arrow keys, shoot SHIFT.

SHIFT is bad idea to use. Better to use something from A,S,D,F. Or Z,X.

I got to level 2 it told me I got items but I can't find pause menu to choose special weapon.

Anyway it looks AMAZING awesomeplz!!!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 15, 2011, 04:00:05 AM
Quote from: teremochek on June 14, 2011, 11:36:11 PM
The Guardian Legend remake rev1 Download
http://webfile.ru/5384978 (http://webfile.ru/5384978)



I think you should set the lower default resolution for downloaders. We do not know what resolution people usually have so 1024 or little less would be fine.

I like the fact I can change the scale. It's great thing that can be played on any screen comfortly that way! I set up 4x4 scale for myself.

Also should be included controls description. I found the pause is [TAB] and special weapon launch is CTRL

The normal bullets shoots very very slow which is not good I think. Maybe after get a speed upgrade or blaster upgrade they should be more frequently shooted?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 15, 2011, 08:39:43 AM
Quote from: arseniy on June 15, 2011, 03:34:54 AM
Setting to D3D7Max2DDriver or D3D9Max2DDriver in config file solves the issue.

But what are the controls???

I only figure fly with arrow keys, shoot SHIFT.

SHIFT is bad idea to use. Better to use something from A,S,D,F. Or Z,X.

I got to level 2 it told me I got items but I can't find pause menu to choose special weapon.

Anyway it looks AMAZING awesomeplz!!!


controls
LEFT ARROW, UP ARROW, RIGHT ARROW, DOWN ARROW - "movement"
LCTRL "Alternative weapon"
LSHIFT - "weapon"
TAB - "Menu"

Z,X - Made in the next revision.

Holders of windows 7, to choose in the config D3D7Max2DDriver or D3D9Max2DDriver.
...Then we put it on a default..
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 15, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
I beat 2 planets and then had to turn off and go out. Game not saved.
The bosses are too hard.
Claw Bot (http://theguardianlegend.com/clone/sprite-compendium_files/bossblueclawbot.gif) starts to shoot very fast hard to dodge. Always killed me.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 15, 2011, 08:48:25 AM
Quote
The normal bullets shoots very very slow which is not good I think. Maybe after get a speed upgrade or blaster upgrade they should be more frequently shooted?
If the mean velocity of the charge, then everything must be as the original.
And if there is a view of the sequence - the time between two shots. This option I have not yet set up.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 15, 2011, 09:05:56 AM
Quote from: arseniy on June 15, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
I beat 2 planets and then had to turn off and go out. Game not saved.
The bosses are too hard.
Claw Bot (http://theguardianlegend.com/clone/sprite-compendium_files/bossblueclawbot.gif) starts to shoot very fast hard to dodge. Always killed me.
The fact that the bosses fixed amount of health damage.
And if you do the opposite, then the boss will either be incredibly strong, or incredibly weak.
Therefore, every boss must be the place.

But all the monsters have to have Variables characteristics.
At each new territory, the monster increases its performance twice. (original)
I have the same on all planets factor = 2 (monster hp*2, monster damage*2)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 17, 2011, 01:17:03 AM
It didn't fit my screen. So I set it to 800x600.
But it didn't go the way I expected.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 17, 2011, 05:48:45 AM
The game size affects with scale. The width\height is just a window size and actual size is scale. set scale to 2 or 3 it should work
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 17, 2011, 08:52:59 AM
I'm fairly impressed! This is good work!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 18, 2011, 12:16:22 AM
Haha yeah! It's very much like original. It plays like there is no difference. Such a precise work!
Anyone who missed:
The Guardian Legend remake rev1 Download
http://webfile.ru/5384978

FAQ:
change size of the game - scale
change size of the window(don't affects size)
if the game runs to fast, try change driver.
all changes by set number in the begining of string in config.txt
ARROW KEYS - "movement"
LSHIFT - "shoot"
LCTRL "Alternative weapon"
TAB - "Menu"
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 20, 2011, 07:54:56 AM
Now do the modes of walking. Did portals, and today made ​​a map in inventory.
I think a good idea to new levels. The new palettes of colors.
What do you think, what new arialy habitat could be added?
(mechanical, marine, plant, fungal, crystalline, organic, bone and other)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RandomSpriter on June 20, 2011, 09:27:55 AM
I tried playing the new revision, but since Shift shoots, I can't inactive "Slow keys" so each 5 presses of shift in a hasty matter makes a new window pop up and makes the game inactive and I die. XD
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 20, 2011, 09:38:18 AM
That's why I tell - SHIFT is really bad idea to use in game  :skullr:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 21, 2011, 09:13:43 AM
When I came up with management, I thought about game "DOOM".
Fix in the next version for Z,X,C.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 21, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
A,S,D is better choice because some keyboards(german for example) will have x or c somewhere else.
also having option to move with W,A,S,D would be kewl :3
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 21, 2011, 09:35:49 PM
I seriously hope nobody is binding actions by character here.
For what it counts, my WASD buttons produce ,aoe. That's right. ZXC buttons produce 'qj. Please bind by button.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: zeldatimelinefreak on July 02, 2011, 12:24:06 PM
How about we do Super Smash Flash 2 style controls:
WASD move
UI regular items
OP shoot and/or main item
Space or backspace pause

Of course we'll have a control editor anyway since everyone plays games with a keyboard differently  ;D...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on August 07, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Hey, I see you uploaded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPcD77KGK4
you are mad for POWER i see.  8)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on August 16, 2011, 04:02:15 AM
Quote from: UserK on August 07, 2011, 11:06:57 AM
Hey, I see you uploaded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPcD77KGK4
you are mad for POWER i see.  8)
Just something to get attention. Of course the game does not need such Amount bosses.

Cause now the case. With programming, I'm going to stop practicing. TGL going to do if you want in your spare time.
Walk Mode seriously incomplete. Therefore, concentrate efforts on Fly Mode. Who realties make music, who realties draw schedule. Editor is like, can use, but I did not spread.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on August 21, 2011, 06:42:37 AM
I'm not sure I understand.
But not to fool you, I don't plan to help. I also have a thing in the works, and I want to make the gears turn as soon as possible.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on August 26, 2011, 03:56:25 AM
This is great...
But I lost motivation and I do not know how I gain strength and continue.
Luckily no one I do TGL Architectural project.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on August 26, 2011, 07:06:45 AM
I think you should finish editor to become handy for users and give them to play with. Someone might do some different levels and that will make some inspiration later.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on August 26, 2011, 08:00:00 AM
If it makes you feel better, I am also stuck. Two weeks and I'm basically at the same point as before.
Decided to took a few days off, but must work hard from monday.
I gave up all hope of having the working prototype by beginning of september. If it won't work by the end of Sept, things are going to be very awry.

Have you tried GLEE2D (http://gleed2d.codeplex.com/)?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on August 29, 2011, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: arseniy on August 26, 2011, 07:06:45 AM
I think you should finish editor to become handy for users and give them to play with. Someone might do some different levels and that will make some inspiration later.
Yeah, I think about it.
Quote from: UserK on August 26, 2011, 08:00:00 AM
If it makes you feel better, I am also stuck. Two weeks and I'm basically at the same point as before.
Decided to took a few days off, but must work hard from monday.
I gave up all hope of having the working prototype by beginning of september. If it won't work by the end of Sept, things are going to be very awry.

Have you tried GLEE2D (http://gleed2d.codeplex.com/)?
Thank you felt a little better.
***
Interesting of Editor. But to rebuild everything for too long.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on September 26, 2011, 07:16:19 AM
butterfly -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnT2HoSNFM&feature=watch_response
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on September 29, 2011, 08:33:59 AM
I discovered the hard way animation is dead difficult.

I appreciate you sometimes show something. The other people doing remakes here... are... where?
There were other remake projects... or perhaps not? I don't even remember anymore!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on September 30, 2011, 02:43:04 AM
BmpCorp doing his flash version remake. He doesn't want to show it anywhere because he had big copyrights problem with his Streets of Rage remake.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on September 30, 2011, 03:30:57 AM
I don't quite understand.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on September 30, 2011, 05:05:53 AM
http://theguardianlegend.com/forum/index.php/topic,214.0.html
He don't wants to share progress but did more progress.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on September 30, 2011, 10:43:15 AM
I think renaming the title of my game.
rename "The Guardian Legend remake" to "The Guardian Legend BlitzMax"
what do you think?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 06, 2011, 01:48:56 AM
BlitzMax Guardian Legend?
Ok both ways.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: optomon on October 06, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: arseniy on September 30, 2011, 05:05:53 AM
http://theguardianlegend.com/forum/index.php/topic,214.0.html
He don't wants to share progress but did more progress.

What the heck? That's the first time I saw that demo. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on October 06, 2011, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: optomon on October 06, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: arseniy on September 30, 2011, 05:05:53 AM
http://theguardianlegend.com/forum/index.php/topic,214.0.html
He don't wants to share progress but did more progress.

What the heck? That's the first time I saw that demo. Awesome.
LOL  :redlander:
He posted link later in the thread so you missed it )))
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 08, 2011, 04:20:00 AM
I registered a project on GoogleСode.
http://code.google.com/p/the-guardian-legend-blitzmax/
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 12, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
This looks insanely complicated!
I was told Blitzmax was easy!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 13, 2011, 10:04:34 AM
Quote from: UserK on October 12, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
This looks insanely complicated!
I was told Blitzmax was easy!
I'll try a little explained to the code.
99% of the code are objects.
So the object is -


Type TGameObject
        Field X:Double
        Field Y:Double
Field dx:Float
Field dy:Float
Field angle:Float
Field speed:Float
        Field Image':TImage
        Field bg_function:Int
        Field Life:Float
        Field Time:Int
        Field Functions:Int
        Field order:Int
        Field dmg:Float

    Method DrawSelf()  '------------------------------------------------ Each scene is drawn objec (picture, the X and Y objec position on the screen)
          DrawImage Image,Floor(X)*zoomX,Floor(Y)*zoomY
    End Method   

    Method DrawFigures() ' ------------------------------------------- Figures for debug (Enter any field of an object or remove.)
           'DrawText functions,Floor(X)*zoomX,Floor(Y)*zoomY
    End Method 

     Method UpdateState() Abstract '-------------------------------- Movement and animation object.

     Method Collide() Abstract          '-------------------------------- Objects of collision with others.

End Type


Not too hard?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 13, 2011, 10:17:59 AM
Consider a simple object - a Meteorite.

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/x_meteorit_Green.png)


'------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Meteorit Green (area 0) --------------------------------------------------------------
Type TMeteorit Extends TGameObject

   Function Create:TMeteorit(File:String,xstart:Int,ystart:Int) --------------------------------  function to create an object (an object with the appearance settings, (Life, damage, etc.))
        Local Ship:TMeteorit=New TMeteorit
        Ship.X=xstart;
        Ship.Y=ystart;
        Ship.Image=788;
        Ship.Life=0.125*level_multiplier;
        Ship.order=3;
        Ship.dy=4;
        Ship.dmg=2*level_multiplier
        If Ship.X+8 >X_player+12;Ship.dx=-1 '------------------------------- mereorit moves in the direction of the ship
        If Ship.X+8<=X_player+12;Ship.dx=1
        ListAddLast GameObjectList, Ship;Ship=Null
   End Function

   Method UpdateState() '-----------------------------------------------------   Here the behavior of an object on the screen
        x:+dx ; y:+dy ; Time:+1;If Time=6;Image:+1;ElseIf Time=11;Image:+1;ElseIf Time=16;Image:+1;time=0; '------------------- Animation and movement
        If Image>791;Image=788
        If Y>192 Then ListRemove GameObjectList, TMeteorit(Self)
   End Method

   Method Collide() ' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If life objec = 0, then remove the object and create one explosion.
      If life<=0 ;xstart=X;ystart=Y ; ListRemove GameObjectList ,  TMeteorit(Self);TBoom1.Create(File:String,xstart:Int,ystart:Int,Functionsstart:Int);score:+60
   EndMethod

End Type

Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 15, 2011, 12:51:15 AM
Yes. Sort of. Still 2000+ LOC per file is scary.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 15, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: UserK on October 15, 2011, 12:51:15 AM
Yes. Sort of. Still 2000+ LOC per file is scary.

Cause I have a high resolution of 1920x1200. It looks almost normal.
If the program in BlittsMaks for you hard, then write the code, as you know how. I then translate it into blittsmaks
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 16, 2011, 01:05:26 AM
What does that even mean???  :o
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 16, 2011, 06:41:53 AM
Quote from: UserK on October 16, 2011, 01:05:26 AM
What does that even mean???  :o

Write the logic of the monster. I'll rewrite it in BlittsMaks. (Do you know how to program?)
  Example:

time=time+1
if time>30 then time=0
if time<15 then x=x+1 ; y=y+4
if time>=15 then x=x-1 ; y=y+4
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 16, 2011, 09:42:26 AM
Yes.
What I was trying to say: if your files are 2000+ lines, just because of "objects" perhaps you should be looking into a way to make it more data-driven and less code-driven.
I'll try to draw what I think might be slowing you down massively.

Now, everyone has his style and if you can go along with that... that's ok.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 16, 2011, 11:52:49 AM
Ship.Y=start - ?  It's just a typo (mistake). It should look like this Ship.Y=ystart
xstart and ystart initial coordinates of the object when you call. Called like this:xstart=120 ; ystart=-16 ; TMeteoritCircle3.Create(File:String,xstart:int,ystart:int)

Magic numbers (enums?)
        Field X:Double  - Position the sprite axis X
        Field Y:Double 
        Field dx:Float  - dx=cos(angle) ; x=x+dx*speed      this formula, we obtain circular movements
        Field dy:Float
        Field angle:Float  If angle = 90 then the sprite is moving down
        Field speed:Float   The speed of the sprite   
        Field Image':TImage  If Image = 760. Then the sprite will look like a File Sprites/760.png
        Field bg_function:Int  . . . .
        Field Life:Float  - Hit points
        Field Time:Int
        Field Functions:Int
        Field order:Int  - Layer on that draw sprites. Order = 2 sprites are drawn on top of sprites with order = 1
        Field dmg:Float  - damage

It's time to sleep. . .
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 17, 2011, 12:00:43 AM
Same code, use inheritance?
Common base func?

Sorry, but I'm not good at programming. Do not know what to say. The main loop)


'=========================================================== MAIN LOOP
#mainloop
Repeat
        Cls        ----------  Clear the graphics buffer.
        GCMemAlloced()   ---------- Clear the memory from the garbage   

        For oo:TGameObject=EachIn GameObjectList 
            If inv=0                     
               oo.UpdateState()  ' ----------  Here are the methods(UpdateState()) of all game objects.
               oo.Collide()            ' ----------  Here are the methods(Collide() ) of all game objects.
            Else
               If oo.order>=9   
                 oo.UpdateState()
                 oo.Collide()   
               EndIf
            EndIf
        Next;oo=Null;

      SortSprites() ' -------------- This function sorts objects by size "order." From smaller to larger
              SetScale(zoomX:Float, zoomY:Float); '--------------- increase the sprites

       For o:TGameObject=EachIn GameObjectList
            If inv=0
               o.DrawSelf()    ' ----------------- Here are the sprites are drawn
            Else
               If o.order>=9;o.DrawSelf() 
            EndIf   
       Next;o=Null

            textfunction() '--------- draw the text
            SetScale(zoomX:Float/5, zoomY:Float/5)

       For o:TGameObject=EachIn GameObjectList   
             If inv=0   
                o.DrawFigures()  '--------- draw the figures(for debugging)
             Else
               If o.order>=9  ; o.DrawFigures()
             EndIf 
       Next;o=Null

              '     --------------------- It is still important.
                '------------------------------------------------------ ===========================================>   skorost dwijeniya bg
            If inv=0 And end_fly=0 '---------------- izmenaetsya tolko ne w inventare
             If Global_editor=0
                If bg_speed:Float>bg_speed_change:Float
                  bg_speed:-0.01;If bg_speed:Float<bg_speed_change:Float Then bg_speed:Float=bg_speed_change:Float     
                Else
                  If bg_speed:Float<bg_speed_change:Float Then  bg_speed:+0.01;If bg_speed:Float>bg_speed_change:Float Then bg_speed:Float=bg_speed_change:Float '
                EndIf
             Else
                bg_speed:Float=bg_speed_change:Float; '--------------------- skorost 2 dwijeniya bg
             EndIf
            EndIf

If end_fly=1 And boss=0 ;TFlyEnd.Create(File:String,0,ystart:Int) ; end_fly=0


CallingButtons()  '---------Buttons (for debugging)
textfunction() '--------- draw the text
Flip(-1)  '--------- Show Sprites, Vertical sync =- 1
Until KeyDown(KEY_ESCAPE) Or AppTerminate()   ' ---------------------------------------------- go to Repeat
End
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 17, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
Probably animation-driven?
Use animation sync function!


I like your idea of code optimization.But, Let's not touch my code.
I will file for you. (The_Guardian_Legend_BlitzMax_5.bmx)
Write it as you like!
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 17, 2011, 12:27:39 AM
Perhaps TMeteoritCircle4 should extend TMeteoritBlue?
No. So do not want to compile blitzMax. (At least I do not know how)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on October 17, 2011, 10:55:17 AM
The question is not what you're doing. Is how you're doing.
I am also working on a project. I must stay focused.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 20, 2011, 07:47:37 AM
Quote from: UserK on October 17, 2011, 10:55:17 AM
The question is not what you're doing. Is how you're doing.
I am also working on a project. I must stay focused.
I am glad that you know about programming.
If something is unclear or need help, I can help.
We can prevent the language barrier. Therefore, questions should be simple and clear.  :bluelander: :redlander:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on October 20, 2011, 08:01:14 AM
Global variables.

Global zoomX:Float = 2
Global zoomY:Float = 2
Global GameObjectList:TList=CreateList()
Global InventaryObjectList:TList=CreateList()
Global Global_editor:Byte=0
Global max_img:Int
Global current_img:Int=1
Global bg_loaded:Int
Global bg_saved:Int
Global bg_speed:Float=0
Global bg_speed_change:Float=0
Global end_fly:Byte=0
Global CreateObject:Int
Global LoadStroka:Int=0
Global X_Player:Float,Y_Player:Float
Global napr:Byte
Global weapon:Byte=3
Global weapon_power:Byte=1
Global weapon1_power:Byte=1
Global weapon2_power:Byte=0
Global weapon3_power:Byte=0
Global weapon4_power:Byte=0
Global weapon5_power:Byte=0
Global weapon6_power:Byte=0
Global weapon7_power:Byte=0
Global weapon8_power:Byte=0
Global weapon9_power:Byte=0
Global weapon10_power:Byte=0
Global weapon11_power:Byte=0
Global weapon12_power:Byte=0
Global weapon13_power:Byte=0
Global weapon14_power:Byte=0
Global weapon15_power:Byte=0
Global inv:Byte=0
Global use_chip:Int=0
Global max_chip:Int=50
Global chip:Int=50
Global score:Int
Global shot:Int
Global keys:Byte=6
Global attack:Byte=1
Global shield:Byte=1
Global shotspeed:Byte=2
Global EE:Byte=0
Global max_energy:Int=64
Global new_energy:Int=0
Global min_energy:Byte=0
Global energy:Int=max_energy
Global max_hp:Int
Global hp:Int   
Global ship_damage:Int=0
Global damage_time:Int=0
Global level_multiplier:Byte=1
Global level_X:Byte=11
Global level_Y:Byte=12
Global mode:Byte=0
Global X_bg:Float
Global Y_bg:Float
Global X_monster:Double
Global Y_monster:Double
Global Z_monster:Float
Global music:Byte
Global delay1:Int=0
Global text:Byte=0
Global boss:Byte=0
Global monster:Byte=0
Global corridor:Byte=0
Global Dirs:Byte=0
Global Map
Global MapArea:Int[]
Global MapLentgh:Int=0
Global MapDirectory:String=""
Global MapDirectory2:String=""
Global MapAreaWalkSave:Int[,]=New Int[16,576]
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 04, 2012, 08:39:42 AM
That's been more than half a year, I stopped programming TGL remake.
And if we speak the truth, then this project is dead. Lastly I want to give a level editor.
Happy Birthday Guardic Gaiden !  :heart:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on February 07, 2012, 02:55:23 AM
That is very unfortunate. I must admit you have been very determined considering the source. Thank you for sharing, at least the data is there. Perhaps a day it will be useful.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: RubyC42 on February 20, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 21, 2012, 06:55:42 AM
Do not worry. I'm starting to program a new game for mobile platforms.  :bluelander::bluelanderbig:
And I think in the game to preserve the atmosphere of the game (Guardian Legend). :heart:
At the same time that there were no problems with copyright ..  :skull:
At a minimum, the game should draw new graphics and sounds to create new ...
Maybe the game will look different if I am lucky enough to unite with the artist...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Golbez on March 21, 2012, 02:34:15 PM
Greetings TGL'ers. Your forum is tricky to join. I was at a friend's who had the cartridge out for his kids and so I started reflecting on how awesome of a game this was, and as I had heard news of things like the Bionic Commando remake and Metroid 2 remake, I was kind of hoping I might find a sequel or remake for this game when I found this forum. So I'm on page 3 of this thread when I remember, hey you know what might be awesome? I'm no coder, but I do play guitar, and love video games and their music, and I have tabbed out this soundtrack from start to finish on one file which, with a little bit of labor, can be split up into all the individual tracks. But first, I have to google what the planet and fish are called, 'cause for the life of me, I have no idea. =P (Awesome captcha idea, btw.)

But anyways, I have a 64kb MIDI file of the entire soundtrack with near exact replication (if not exact), which I figured you all may be interested in. I also have Synthfont and a variety of soundfonts to go with it that I can provide different instrumentation to the MIDI tracks so as to modernize/update/modify their sound, if that's something you might like for this effort.

As a third (and more difficult option), my guitar chops are pretty decent, and as there's no drums to this soundtrack, and only 3 tracks, it's fairly possible I could record each track on Audacity and make guitar/rock versions of these songs.

If the attachment process in these forums will work for these file types, I have attached the MIDI file (audio playable through your generic media player) and the .ptb file (power-tab file, guitar application to learn to play it). (File size too large - 136kb, lol, just shy of the 128 limit.)

This is the native application for it, which you'll notice the download.com mirror link to assure it's spyware-free:
http://www.power-tab.net/guitar.php

And here are my other contributions in the tabbing realm, including a variety of other video games (to show my credentials):
http://www.powertabs.net/profile.php?id=1712

QuoteThat's been more than half a year, I stopped programming TGL remake.
And if we speak the truth, then this project is dead. Lastly I want to give a level editor.
Happy Birthday Guardic Gaiden !  :heart:

Awww balls. Good thing I saw this spoiler. Now I don't have to read all the other pages. :) Oh well, then enjoy the soundtrack. Maybe someone will find it of some use anyways. Cheers.  :skull: :bluelander: (more chips!)

PS - The for the Soundtrack arrangement, I generally tried to organize the tracks in the order they first appear in the game, and I only repeated the theme once, as it's already 10 minutes long. :)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on March 22, 2012, 07:54:34 AM
Nice midi, did you compiled that from TGL midi tracks or bothered by yourself?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Golbez on March 24, 2012, 04:41:55 AM
Thanks. I individually input all of that. It used to be a fun hobby of mine before the website I made them for got shut down (powertabs.net). I never even submitted that one to the archives. If this project ever finds new life, maybe I could help in some small way.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on March 24, 2012, 07:04:58 AM
I would not lose hope. Looks like a lot of fans around here have some sort of skill to put to good use.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on March 25, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Golbez on March 24, 2012, 04:41:55 AM
Thanks. I individually input all of that. It used to be a fun hobby of mine before the website I made them for got shut down (powertabs.net). I never even submitted that one to the archives. If this project ever finds new life, maybe I could help in some small way.
This midi seems to fit perfectly to the original tune. I not sure if this 100% match but sounds kida.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Golbez on March 25, 2012, 04:15:05 PM
So I played through and beat it again. A couple things:

1) You get 10 Shields. Ten, of which I think only 7 are used. And 4 guns, the fourth being right at the end. How useful.

2) I found out the composer's name is Miyamo Shant, and he did the soundtrack to another game: Zanac.

http://www.mirsoft.info/gmb/musician_info.php?id_ele=Mzk5

You can download the soundtrack (in NSF format) here:
http://www.zophar.net/music/nsf/zanac.html

And here's where you can get some plugin's to play NSF files through Winamp and the like. I use NSFplug and it works pretty well:
http://www.zophar.net/utilities/nsf.html

Oh, and 3) The blue guy gives you life. The red guy gives you chips. I was wrong.

Edit - Ahahah, track 9 is the sound affect for getting a level up in TGL. He reuses that sound. Pretty good soundtrack so far as well.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on March 26, 2012, 04:40:17 AM
Yeah Zanac also has nice music. Too bad they did sequel to Zanac instead of TGL, but Zanac had more popularity than TGL I guess.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on April 04, 2012, 09:38:34 AM
And it still far from being a megahit. But at least it's known.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 05, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: UserK on April 04, 2012, 09:38:34 AM
And it still far from being a megahit. But at least it's known.

In my opinion TGL is 10 times better than Zanac. Maybe they did bad marketing. All the covers of the cartrige and box are horrible. Or course japanese picture is nice but it's not attractive for a game to buy. I think the game graphics itself is way better than any box\cartrige cover TGL had(EU,US,JP)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 05, 2012, 10:02:23 AM
Better, would have created a level for TGL remake than just a chat)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 06, 2012, 07:25:58 AM
Here for example  :skull: :skull: :skull:

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/The_6.gif)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 07, 2012, 07:15:29 AM
Fun fun fun!  :redlander:

The only thing I would change is to setup the shooting skeletons some how simmetrically.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 07, 2012, 07:43:50 AM
It is possible to make such a boss. Still need to change the color. :bluelander: :redlander:
It is interesting to do a bone passage. What would have the edge on the sides and in the middle - vertebrae. :skull:
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 07, 2012, 08:02:22 AM
Multiple circular meteorites  :skull:

(http://teremochek2008.narod.ru/TGL/The_7.gif)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 07, 2012, 10:36:23 AM
Fireball will be good to break through
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 08, 2012, 04:00:53 AM
Better make speralny meteorite. Or any other form.
Doug, a wave.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: EinhanderZwei on April 10, 2012, 01:30:18 PM
Why every shmup sequel has to turn into a Cave-wannabee? Why not the traditional, 'methodical' shmup?  :'(
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 11, 2012, 05:04:57 AM
Quote from: EinhanderZwei on April 10, 2012, 01:30:18 PM
Why every shmup sequel has to turn into a Cave-wannabee? Why not the traditional, 'methodical' shmup?  :'(

Like what you mean?  :)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: EinhanderZwei on April 11, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
These crazy skull/meteorite bullet patterns... the very last thing that comes to my mind when I'm thinking of TGL
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 12, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
Quote from: EinhanderZwei on April 11, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
These crazy skull/meteorite bullet patterns... the very last thing that comes to my mind when I'm thinking of TGL
Need to get people interested.
These skulls most look very intriguing.
Have any other ideas?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 12, 2012, 10:30:20 AM
Quote from: EinhanderZwei on April 11, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
These crazy skull/meteorite bullet patterns... the very last thing that comes to my mind when I'm thinking of TGL

That's what I like about TGL, it's not bullet hell and your shit not shoots all over the screen.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Golbez on April 13, 2012, 03:32:15 AM
Quote from: teremochek on April 12, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
Need to get people interested.
These skulls most look very intriguing.
Have any other ideas?

What about a brand new soundtrack, in the style of the old one? I crafted this tune as an example. Could be a new theme to an area map. Is this the direction the game was meant to take? Are these supposed to be all new levels with new music? Or is it a remake of the original, with new skins over the original levels, etc? ... or both?  8)

If you guys dig this tune, and would like a new soundtrack, I might be motivated to make a bunch more levels and jingles. But I don't want to make an album's worth of tunes if it won't be used.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 13, 2012, 09:06:59 AM
Quote from: Golbez on April 13, 2012, 03:32:15 AM
Quote from: teremochek on April 12, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
Need to get people interested.
These skulls most look very intriguing.
Have any other ideas?

What about a brand new soundtrack, in the style of the old one? I crafted this tune as an example. Could be a new theme to an area map. Is this the direction the game was meant to take? Are these supposed to be all new levels with new music? Or is it a remake of the original, with new skins over the original levels, etc? ... or both?  8)

If you guys dig this tune, and would like a new soundtrack, I might be motivated to make a bunch more levels and jingles. But I don't want to make an album's worth of tunes if it won't be used.

I like this music. Good to use in the game if it's free
Walk MAP AREA unfortunately does not work. Only Fly mode.
Now it's just a game. We can change it as you'd like ..
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 06, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
http://youtu.be/cB19jHHC7Fg
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Golbez on June 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Does this mean your efforts on this project live on? This video looks awesome!

Can you imagine having the core of the game coded, and then make it open source and have many fan-based versions of the game that we can endlessly play?! That'd be amazing.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: UserK on June 10, 2012, 02:41:26 AM
Quote from: Golbez on June 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AMCan you imagine having the core of the game coded, and then make it open source and have many fan-based versions of the game that we can endlessly play?! That'd be amazing.
No. This is not how open source is supposed to be used. And that's not how mods are supposed to be made. The Right Way to do this is to use data-driven techniques, for which you don't need code.

Going back to the problem, Teremo has given full source access already!
http://code.google.com/p/the-guardian-legend-blitzmax/

I have not looked at it in a while (some elaborations on code design a few pages ago). It looked fairly code-oriented rather than data-oriented. I sincerely hope the code was refactored since then because it looks quite complex to maintain.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 29, 2012, 07:13:19 AM
Quote from: Golbez on June 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Does this mean your efforts on this project live on? This video looks awesome!
Thanks.
I'm not stable. I wanted to finish the game.
But now I'm doing another game.

Quote from: Golbez on June 09, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Can you imagine having the core of the game coded, and then make it open source and have many fan-based versions of the game that we can endlessly play?! That'd be amazing.
If we talk about my remake, then code the game open. Theoretically, you can make modifications, but you need to know something. I can answer, if something is unclear. Here's the latest code.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/The%20Guardian%20Legend%20BlitzMax%20%28rev13%29.zip/download (http://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/The%20Guardian%20Legend%20BlitzMax%20%28rev13%29.zip/download)


Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on May 08, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
 :skull:
(back to blitzmax)
Rrandom monsters in level.
(https://image.ibb.co/hVm9vk/TGL_Random_Monsters1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: Shredder on May 30, 2017, 03:32:13 AM
 8)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 19, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
Really? That's interesting. My suggestion - make better level editor. Then I am sure would be possible to find some people to create levels.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on June 21, 2017, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: arseniy on June 19, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
Really? That's interesting. My suggestion - make better level editor. Then I am sure would be possible to find some people to create levels.

Has bothered me.
But there is one small updating  :bluelander:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/TGLBM14.zip/download (https://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/TGLBM14.zip/download)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on June 24, 2017, 01:47:30 AM
What was updated?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on January 13, 2018, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: arseniy on June 24, 2017, 01:47:30 AM
What was updated?
:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
here what will be new in a REV 15.
+ automatic pilot
+ add music from ZanacXZanac
+ update Claw Bot.
+ speed and monsters increases each five levels.

Only Fly mode.
(It is planned to increase weapon power to 24)
...
+ increase max chip, keys, max attack, max shields, life(green line).
+ update weapon with new power - ORBS.
+ delete samonavodilki

..in plan - update all weapons.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on January 16, 2018, 08:53:08 AM
+ all weapon are updated.

+ max shot 999, if a lot of chip.
+ fix minor stock bug.
+ bug with EndFly, when  coridor end, but ship was destroyed.

-some bugs can't fix...

In plans to eliminate there are a lot of bugs.

+ tested ScaleX2 filter (with little lags).



+ tested and optimized ScaleX3 filter (no lags now)
+ garbage collector enable (fixing).

+ boom fix (6 particles)
+ autopilot update.
+ ...
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 03, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
+ Full screen bug fix
+ add 3 difficults - easy, normal, hard.
+ add "YOU GOT KEY"
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on February 03, 2018, 11:57:18 AM
 :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart:

Guardian Legend 30 years!

:bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart:

TODO!

TGLBM15  download  (https://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/The%20Guardian%20Legend%20BlitzMax%20%28rev15%29.zip/download)
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: radicalblues on February 05, 2020, 10:01:18 AM
Quote from: teremochek on February 03, 2018, 11:57:18 AM
:bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart:

Guardian Legend 30 years!

:bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart: :bluelander: :heart:

TODO!

TGLBM15  download  (https://sourceforge.net/projects/tglbm/files/The%20Guardian%20Legend%20BlitzMax%20%28rev15%29.zip/download)

This is pretty cool! Are you still working on this? What's the status of the project?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on April 07, 2020, 01:29:49 AM
Quote from: radicalblues on February 05, 2020, 10:01:18 AM
This is pretty cool! Are you still working on this? What's the status of the project?

No. Frozen!
The last thing done. I copied from the emulator all the flying corridors, But they are without monsters, and need to be improved. (Corr 5,6,7,8,9,10)

Another idea was to expand the screen by increasing the number of tiles. (Widescreen version). But for this I need to finish the corridors. (Tiles left and right ..)

At the moment, I am again developing games, but - a map generator for Heroes 3. Perhaps after that I will continue TGLBM ..
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on April 07, 2020, 01:52:01 AM
Hm. A map generator, who needs that when there are so much maps created?
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: teremochek on November 19, 2021, 10:24:02 AM
+ 255 EE weapon - white color fix.
+ I add monsters to the corridors of the organic area. :heart: (4/4)
+ fixing bonus engine (First aid kit, heart, red chip, blue chip, heart, heart, red, red)
+ 9,10 area monsters (4/4)
+ corridor 21 (2/2) (without final boss)
+ corridor 0   TODO!

   next:   
              Litttle fixing all monsters.
Title: Re: The Guardian Legend remake
Post by: arseniy on November 20, 2021, 10:39:22 AM
Wow! :redlander: :heart: :heart: