The Guardian Legend

Original Game => The Guardian Legend => Topic started by: Izlude on March 22, 2011, 09:46:04 AM

Title: Irem owns TGL
Post by: Izlude on March 22, 2011, 09:46:04 AM
While wondering who actually had the license to it, I went ahead and contacted all these compile varients.  No response.... hehehehe....

So I took a shot in the dark and contacted Irem.  They replied with this:

Dear Sir or Madam:

Thank you for contacting us. We have the license of "The Guardian Legend." Thank you very much.

Sincerely,IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.



We can still dream and make home brews right? :)
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: RandomSpriter on March 22, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
O.o Iiiinteresting...
Now that you called, maybe they'll actually make a sequel? XD
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: arseniy on March 22, 2011, 07:00:57 PM
Yes of course they have. It's written there on title screen :redlander:
why don't you ask them about making sequel conditions?
tho it's written founded on 1997. LOL. the game is 1988
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: theoden_2010 on March 22, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: arseniy on March 22, 2011, 07:00:57 PM
Yes of course they have. It's written there on title screen :redlander:
why don't you ask them about making sequel conditions?
tho it's written founded on 1997. LOL. the game is 1988

'97 is just the date IREM bought and renewed the license. could be its just collecting dust. could be in a similar long development process like DNF aka Duke-Nukem Forever, its a waiting time bomb game. just a matter of when we see or hear of it really.

This also means like Sega, IREM being Japanese I think, solely would release it "only in japan". In that case- its difficult to say weather the game is possible to create and distribute. That's only if it was made in japan, for japan. IREM having the license is good. Since they have made one of my favs...Image Fight.

Right now its like looking down a rabbit hole...how deep will it go? no-one clearly knows.

Cheers,
Theoden
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: Izlude on March 22, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
I propose the lot of us contact Irem as individuals presenting "interest in the game's sequel or redevelopment".  If I do it alone, I'm sure to get a response like, "We have many projects ahead before we can consider looking into it."

The more of us pressuring Irem to get a game going, the better.  This mass interest may be just the boost they need.  Although I am really looking forward to the forum's own project, one can't help but wonder what commercial based game they could make.  The technology is ready and waiting.

Perhaps maybe a few of us could even send concepts to wet their appetite.  I'm certain we'd need at least 1,000 folks to do it.  Not a typical petition of course, but actual e-mails that go direct to them.  I'm gonna go for it and ask what they plan to do with that license.  (Won't mention anything about this forum though, for our safety)
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: UserK on March 23, 2011, 11:52:06 AM
Quote from: theoden_2010 on March 22, 2011, 08:55:21 PMIREM having the license is good.
Really? I think I get your point - better to have a sure response that I don't like than no response and deal with unknowns. I think it would have been better if the IP got lost across acquisitions.
Quote from: Izlude on March 22, 2011, 09:19:55 PMPerhaps maybe a few of us could even send concepts to wet their appetite.  I'm certain we'd need at least 1,000 folks to do it.  Not a typical petition of course, but actual e-mails that go direct to them.  I'm gonna go for it and ask what they plan to do with that license.  (Won't mention anything about this forum though, for our safety)
I cannot quite understand what's going on in your head. Wouldn't this be slightly counter-productive for us?
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: RandomSpriter on March 23, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
Counter Productive?
If the original creators create a sequel, is always better(MOSTLY; exceptions can be done(Sonic? :P)), there will be joy.

Especially if it's made for the DS or 3DS.

If we only could get ahold of "Mootani"...
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: arseniy on March 23, 2011, 11:24:12 PM
Compile is original creators. Irem bought license for game.
What is "Mootani"?
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: RandomSpriter on March 24, 2011, 02:53:29 AM
Mootani refers to Niitani, the original creator of TGL.
If I haven't got my information tangled up that is.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: Izlude on April 01, 2011, 02:22:17 PM
I got my reply.

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Dear Sir or Madam:

Thank you for contacting us.

Unfortunately, we don't have any sequel/redevelopment plan of "The Guardian
Legend " now, but we appreciate your valuable request.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
IREM SOFTWARE ENGINEERING INC.

----

Would anyone here have the guts to ask if they were selling the rights?  If they refuse to sell it, it means one of two things:  They have OCD and want it to collect dust, or they have a hunch that they'll be redeveloping it.   If they do redevelop it, 3DS would be awesome.  I can imagine a hologram type projection on the screen when she transforms. Or maybe 3D models of the weapons and floor plans.  That would make one sick game for true.

Either way, I'm glad you guys are doing something on these boards.  I'd like to really see what you can do with your talents.  Who knows, if they do sell the rights, you'll have the game all ready and set to expose to the world.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: UserK on April 02, 2011, 01:43:56 AM
Quote from: Izlude on April 01, 2011, 02:22:17 PMWould anyone here have the guts to ask if they were selling the rights?
How much money do you think they could require?
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: Yoyo on April 21, 2011, 03:52:20 PM
I'd love a sequel. Even if they were to release it as an XBLA download, I'd still get it. But I'd prefer a full actual disc game.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: arseniy on April 26, 2011, 07:32:17 PM
There is Compile Heart company. It's slightly related to Compile.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: AlastorSX on October 19, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
Hell, I'd settle for a revamp for any console whether it was hand held or not. If the revamp went well, it would encourage a sequel, and a possible franchise.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: arseniy on October 19, 2012, 11:25:19 PM
Hah! Here is this letters from Irem. Why couldn't I find it through search some time ago!
Gotta bookmark the thread or I will lose it again!
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: AlastorSX on October 20, 2012, 06:08:20 PM
You know if I wasn't 100% sure it would cost millions of dollars, I would say let's raise the money and buy the copyrights.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: Amanroth on November 09, 2012, 07:53:20 PM
When you think about it, it seems the only reasonable thing Irem could do with any of the games it has the rights to now is sell them. Considering how Irem removed all its properties from things like PlayStation Store and Virtual Console, they must not have been profitable enough to bother with. A year and a half ago, Irem also dissolved its video game division, so they no longer have anything to do with video games. This is why folks that worked for Irem like Kazuma Kujo decided to create their own company, Granzella, to continue creating games. But all the rights should still be Irem's, and if Irem ever dissolves then those rights would go to its parent company, Eizo.
From a financial valuing perspective, an intangible assets fair market value is often judged by the present value of net expected future cash flows, which are going to be zero for all Irem's game properties, so I really couldn't imagine any of them being considered to be worth much at all. To them, the Guardian Legend apparently wasn't even worth considering releasing on things like the Virtual Console at all. Being but a single, old, "forgotten" game, I would actually be rather surprised if the rights to it were valued to be even half a million.
So only one of two things are going to happen. Either a company eventually speculates the nostalgic value of the property is enough to make buying it worth more than just creating something brand new, or it sits in Irem's closet to collect dust for the rest of eternity.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: arseniy on November 09, 2012, 11:17:55 PM
Yeah that' resonable.
Title: Re: Irem owns TGL
Post by: EinhanderZwei on November 12, 2012, 06:50:42 AM
I would die to get something like 'Irem's Post-Apocalyptic Collection' for PSP (maybe even with unlockable TGL or the like). That would be beyond awesome!